his writing and my responses to same.
I apologize. I had set 4 writings to auto-post while I was attending a conference last week - - they did NOT post.
I will be moderating comments received while I was out of town over the next 24 hours - - i have 34 of them to go through. Thank you all for reading and writing.
HERE WE GO
FINALLY - - a response from former pastor Brad Johnson of Calvary Community Church.
A couple of readers contacted me and informed me that Brad had responded to claims made at this site. They believe I should respond to his comments posted on July 27, 2008 - - titled “Stop Me.” I was out of town all last week and apologize to Brad and my readers for not responding sooner. I do not access the internet when I travel.
I am printing Brad’s writing in its entirety and will address section by section as “Brad” then “My Response.”
BRAD: A friend told me about the latest website that is out there: stoppastorbradjohnson.com
Interesting, huh? In addition to saying things like, “He should be executed for what he did to the church,” It lists the reasons I should never be a minister again (which I thought all Christians were supposed to be…).
MY RESPONSE: We are all supposed to be ministers of God and His Word. There is a difference between a “minister of God’s word” and leading a church or movement. My issue is with you as a leader - - not as a minister.
BRAD: It’s hurtful, of course. I do know that hurting people tend to hurt people. So, the grace side of me just knows there is trauma from this person’s past that goes far beyond the pain I caused (though, if you read my blog, “I get it” on the pain I caused).
MY RESPONSE: I don’t have any traumas short of those that I myself have created. I do not carry forward issues that have taken place in my past nor do I overlay those events upon people in my present. You also have not caused me any pain. I left the building 6 months before you. I was moved to start this site when I learned you were planning on leading again. I have read your blog and it appears “your getting it” regarding the pain you have caused has been severely minimized - - both in the flip manner you address the fixing of the pain in addition to the moving on with life. View the postings by Rick or Jason at my site. These are the words of repentant people. There is nothing in your site that in any way, shape or form mimics such “words from the heart.”
BRAD: I suspect I know who this person is, and if so, there is so much that can be written about and the full agenda will be fairly clear, once the person is revealed…but the person has chosen to be anonymous. What do you think about that?
MY RESPONSE: a) You don’t know who I am. I can tell by our interactions when we are together. Therefore, there is no “so much that can be written about.” b) There is no “full agenda” that you describe. I am not a leader. I am not competing with you. I can’t fathom what any “full agenda” could possibly mean since my only intent in creating this site was to prevent you from leading good people down a bad path. c) In reference to why I remain anonymous, I had no problem putting my name to this blog. People who knew me believed that it could potentially disrupt the integrity of the blog - - thwarting free flow of information and also diverting attention from the stated intention of this site.
BRAD: So….how to respond to such mean-spirited people (though they say they love me…I guess they would ‘lovingly execute me?’):
MY RESPONSE: I am not mean-spirited. If you read my site, you would see over and over again, that I believe you are a truly gifted person, who, once his life is back on track, could make INCREDIBLE in-roads into God’s work. But not at this time.
Regarding the execution statement: I believe child molesters and murderers should be executed, not because I hate them, not because I was molested, not because of retribution but because they can’t be here and because of the seriousness of their crimes. I consider your crimes to be equally serious. It is not hatred that drives this comment; it is a belief that your “crimes against the church” warranted this level of punishment. I am not your judge, jury or deliverer of punishment. I was merely stating an opinion as to what I believed to be appropriate for the damage you brought to so many lives.
BRAD: 1. First, about this ministry. I’m not a pastor, nor a church leader. LifeChangeCommunity is not a church. We exist to just sit with people who doubt their faith, or whose lives have crashed (by their own doing or not) and they simply can’t believe God loves them or that they can have a fresh start with God. My ministry…to sit with them until they believe. Simple. And it comes from the experience in my life where some people believed ‘for’ me until I could believe again for myself.
MY RESPONSE: Great ministry. The problem is you are the leader of this ministry - - not a volunteer with it. With your own life in such disarray you are in no position to lead any person any where. You want to make a difference, go into some big church or some organization where such ministries already exist and help the people they are trying to help - - they are in desperate need of men of your skills and abilities.
This “ministry” is about you and the lifestyle you have grown accustomed to. This is not about helping others. At your Christmas in the Park II (my reference to your 2nd park-held event) you stated that your ministry needed 14,000$ per month. FOR WHAT? For you to return to a new home and new car and be paid to write? There are plenty of similar ministries reaching hundreds, if not thousands of people, on budgets far less than a couple hundred thousand dollars year. Go volunteer somewhere. You say “no one would have you.” You are misstating truth. There are plenty of organizations that would love to have someone who has been there and who also has your ability to speak so eloquently. But no, volunteering is beneath you. You need 168,000$ a year to help people.
BRAD: 2. If this ministry is of God, who would want to fight against it? If it’s not from God it will fail and I totally would want it to fail, if He is not in it.
MY RESPONSE: I am not here to say what God does or does not want, or to question what He may lay on the hearts of men.
I have ZERO INTEREST in waiting for another of your projects to fail. Failing is fine for a business - - a few people lose their jobs and have to go out and find another source of income. You busted an entire building. You busted one of the premiere churches in California - - albeit with a little help from people even less able to run that building than you, but YOU DID IT. I don’t want to see hundreds or thousands more of God’s people hurt by your flip comment of “if it’s not His way it will fail…” These are God’s people; not a bunch of jerks you’ve picked up on the side of the road. You still don’t get the damage you caused and the damage you can still cause. I still talk to people who cry over the damage you’ve caused God’s church and to their married relationships. I suspect your ex-wife still cries when she thinks about 20 wasted years. I believe your daughters still cry for the pain and embarrassment you brought into their lives.
BRAD: 3. I want to be known by what I am for (grace, redemption, being a dad), than to be known by what or WHO I am against. But…different strokes for….
MY RESPONSE: I am known for making a difference in people’s lives. This blog is the first time I have ever taken on preventing someone from moving forward. And even this is a misnomer, since this site is about you “getting it” so that you CAN move forward.
BRAD: 4. I don’t hate this person for doing this and I cite their web page here so they get more readers. I’ve written on every thing that is there, I have no secrets and live in truth…so, I am free from fear. As a human with feelings, sure it bugs me that someone would go to so much trouble and time and investment to do harm. I wish they’d have taken on world hunger, or the Darfur refugee situation, or the fact that 700,000 children in California have no health/medical coverage. But no. Their mission in life is to stop brad johnson. That’s a simple, low level mission. Read it and decide for yourself.
MY RESPONSE: I’m glad you do not hate me. I would take you to lunch tomorrow to discuss these same issues. Again, I am not here to do you harm. I have information that could do that and have NO INTEREST in spreading it or causing further hurt in your life.
These “other projects” you describe, I contribute to in time and money - - not the exact ones - - but clean drinking wells in Africa, Katrina damage, Habitat for Humanity, etc. This “mission” of Stopping Brad Johnson, is a simple mission that takes little time. But it is absolutely not “low level.” This is about you being prevented from hurting more of God’s people or from leading more of God’s people down the wrong path. It may be a simple mission from a time or money standpoint, but it is anything but simple when you take into account the people it is impacting.
BRAD: 5. I do wonder, when I am ‘yesterday’s news’ who will this person write AGAINST next? Seems this person has found their calling in being the church police. This person doesn’t respect or trust Elders, and certainly not me. This person insinuates that if allowed to be the singular voice/leader of the church, this person would have saved the day, averted harm and been a perfectly insightful leader. But ALL the leaders failed this person. Kinda impressive, to be so wise, huh?
MY RESPONSE: You are not “yesterday’s news.” You have seen to this personally. The actions you undertook prior to your departure from Calvary Community Church are “yesterday’s news.” The actions you are engaging in at this time are “current events.” You are trying to lead. That is my problem.
I am not the church police - - what an awful job that would be. But do I want people like you leading?? NOT A CHANCE! Will I do what needs to be done to stop people like you from hurting more good people? Yes I will. There is no “next victim” for me. There is no desire to air church laundry in public. I was only attempting to reach people who knew about you or were looking for you. The title of this site was not stopbadpreachers.com, nor was it Godschurchhasbadpeople.com. It was titled StopPastorBradJohnson.com to prevent you from getting money or gaining benefit prior to being right with God and doing God’s work - - much the same way members of society do not want criminals profiting from books or interviews after they’ve been convicted of heinous crimes.
On the issue of the Elders, I respect the Elders’ hearts. I trust their intentions. And my reference was not to all Elders, just the Elders of Calvary. And not just the Elders of Calvary, but specific Elders who do not seem to understand that spending 350,000$ to convert a storage area into an 800 foot room for kids was ridiculous when the job could have been done for 50 or 75 thousand $.
I disrespect how they handled your situation, from the time they first met you to the time you departed. I do not trust their ability to make tough decisions, regarding how to get Calvary back on track. I do not trust their ability to run a 7 million dollar “business.” But they are good people with good hearts, so I pray for them as I do for you.
Would I have “saved the day?” From you? Yes. Would the world look a little different? You bet. I wasn’t in the running to be a leader. Your comments lead me to believe that I was somehow competing for your old job. I was never in the running. It was not my “calling,” nor was I ever even on the radar for any type of leadership position at Calvary Community Church - - or any other church for that matter.
“All the leaders failed” - - no. but Calvary’s leaders did and you did and we did as members of that church. But your tone here is no different than your tone when people criticized you at Calvary or when negative remarks were sent to your blog. (None of which came from me by the way.) “Find another church.” I have spoken with 7 different people who received this communication from you while you were at Calvary and you once made this comment straight from the pulpit.
You don’t post negative comments to your blog. In reading mine you will notice that I am just as quick to write opposing points of view as I am to post those supporting my position. Your blog only contains “fan mail.” Fan mail is nice. It feels good. It looks good and everybody’s happy as they skip merrily down the beach of Brad’s life - - but it is not real. I don’t love every comment that lands at this site, but I absolutely support the free flow of ideas - - from both sides of the argument. Truth will show up for those who seek it.
BRAD: 6. I will move forward with a ministry of encouragement, helping people believe in fresh starts with God, I will move forward trying to cover the bodies of those who are being stoned by religious police. And I will give my life pursuing my daughters with love and relationship. And I will give my life everyday continuing to be truthful and authentic. And I will resist the urge to ‘please, placate, care for, rescue’ those who disapprove of me.
MY RESPONSE: I don’t want you to stop ministering. I want you to stop leading - - at least for now. I want you to consider recovery (your own personal recovery) and ministry inside another building’s already existing infrastructure.
I am not the religious police. You should see some of the letters I have been unable to post. I am your police. People fail. We are human. It is part of our nature. You still think this is all about you. It isn’t. It’s about Truth. It’s about repentance. It’s about complete recovery. Sit in the audience for a while. Volunteer to help those in need. Get a regular job and do your blog and ministry stuff on the side. I do not want you to please, placate or rescue those who disapprove of you. I do NOT disapprove of you. I disapprove of your current path.
BRAD: 7. Life is short. If you learn anything in the exchange between that person’s web page and mine….GO BE ‘FOR‘ SOMETHING. Have a voice. Believe in it enough to not be anonymous. Have conviction that you are following the voice of God. Then….live your life fully and with peace.
MY RESPONSE: PLEASE Brad, take the time to read through this site again. Read people’s comments - - I know some of it is painful for you. SEE that my site IS “for something.” IT IS FOR YOU. It is for all the great things I know you can do for God and His people. It is not for your present course.
BRAD: I’m trying. This bit of news was discouraging to me, as a toddler trying to walk again. But, I’m reaching for the edge of the table to pull up once more and I hear my heavenly Father cheering for me to get up and walk….so, that is the voice I’m choosing to listen to today.
Hope you can too. loveyameanitbye.
MY RESPONSE: God’s voice is the only voice I ask that you listen to. I’m afraid you are confusing it with Brad’s voice. Drop to your knees and ask God if you’re kool. Ask Him if He wants you to collect 14,000$ a month or if He wants you to help anywhere and everywhere you can. Ask him if you should get a job or if you should be leading this movement. At some point, you will “get it.” I really hope you do. You can do great things in this world. But right now, I don’t think you’re listening to God - - I think you’re listening to Brad and Brad’s ego. Maybe you are listening to God. And if God truly is part of your work, I apologize to both Him and you.
I was going to announce this in tomorrow’s blog, but decided to do it today instead. Tomorrow will be my last blog as it pertains to you. Over the next 24 hours I will be posting comments that came in while I was out of town. I will be posting about your Christmas in the Park II that took place on July 26th. And I will be finished.
I believe my work here is done.
I did not start this site to hound you nor to hurt you.
I got your attention.
I got the attention of your readers and of Calvary’s leadership.
I have stated my purpose in the most clean, concise and truthful manner I know.
I have raised the issues that needed to be raised and addressed issues of people such as Soren and numerous other readers who have sent comments to this site.
Heidi has terminated her site. (This was actually unintentional, but seems to have forwarded good.)
Re this post: Once tomorrow’s writings and people’s comments have been added, this blog will most likely become an inspirational site, or some type of site that may help people through issues they are dealing with, or maybe just give people some messages about God and His desires for our lives.
Thank you - - all of you who have been reading and responding. And thank you Brad for writing.
Out.
May God continue to bless all your lives.
Richard